2023-04-10 Mon 11:39 AM ![[Pasted image 20230513110524.png]] ![[Pasted image 20230513111344.png]] > [!-cf-]+ [[Related notes]] > - [[Analytic psychology]] > - [[Jungian archetypes as attractors in abstraction-space]] - Definition: In [[Analytic psychology|Jungian psychology]], [[Archetype_jung|Archetypes]] are universal symbols or patterns found across cultures and within the collective unconscious. They serve as templates for understanding human experiences. - Example: The wise old man archetype represents wisdom, knowledge, and guidance, often appearing in stories as a mentor figure. Asking GPT-4 — What is an archetype in Jungian psychology? > [!ai] AI > An archetype in Jungian psychology refers to a universal symbol, theme, or pattern that exists in the collective unconscious of all human beings. These archetypes are inherited through generations and are present in myths, dreams, art, and literature across cultures. They serve as templates for understanding common human experiences and emotions, such as love, death, power struggles, and transformation. Some common archetypes include the Hero, the Mother, the Wise Old Man or Woman, the Trickster, and the Shadow. According to Carl Jung, these archetypes help us make sense of our experiences and shape our perceptions of reality. # [[Journal section]] ### 2023-06-24 22:40:50 What is an archetype. I tried, early on in my experience with Jung, to say [[Jungian archetypes as attractors in abstraction-space]]. And I have many times come back to the thought that there's something interesting to get from the LLMs, and vector stores trained on human speech. Where.... the model will learn patterns that might not map to human vocabulary..... There's the notion of the meaning of words in the Wittgensteinean sense — game, which points to lots of things, has no clear definite [[Intension]], is a situation of family resemblence. But words are crude, their existence and popularity among a people, and the way they carve up and share meaning-space, is accidental, organic, messy. Sometimes there might be one word for a thing, sometimes ten, sometimes none, or only some nipping at the edges. So what is that underlying space, that space of patterns, where names are pinned and tacked and pasted, to try to grab or point at some part of it? Is that the space of archetypes? > Let us then imagine archetpyes as the *deepest patterns of of psychic functioning*, the roots of the soul governing the perspectives we have of ourselves and the world. > —[[Ref. James Hillman 1990 - A Blue Fire]], ch 1.